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Post by Admin on Aug 12, 2018 5:33:41 GMT -6
Study Begins: August 12, 2018 Discussion Begins: August 19, 2018
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14What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? 15If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, 16and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? 17So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. 18But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder! 20Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless? 21Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? 22You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works; 23and the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”—and he was called a friend of God. 24You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. 25And in the same way was not also Rahab the prostitute justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way? 26For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead. English Standard Version
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Post by elacey on Aug 18, 2018 9:01:53 GMT -6
In the church there is a feeling one can have as an "intellectual ego acheiver" when the whole-hearted agreement with the fundamental concepts of the message feels so strong that the person thinks...
"I have faith."
This is not faith.
Faith is demonstrated when we show love to others...
... when we're show true compassion in our heart.
This compassion comes from understanding that God the Father gives us everything - even our breath.
Faith is the ultimate expression of gratitude.
Simply put.
Understanding is not Faith.
Giving love (from the Holy Spirit inside your heart) to others without asking anything in return....
...this is Faith.
This demonstrates more than understanding... it demonstrates discipline, obedience, gratitude.
It demonstrates inner change.
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Post by JB on Aug 19, 2018 15:53:44 GMT -6
2:14 What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him?
Can an inactive faith save us? Can it?
I was analyzing their human resource structure, so they provided a list of employees, titles and salaries. Bruce had an uncommon title. I no longer remember what it was, but this 48 year old had been on the payroll of this successful family-owned business for three decades, and he drew a very nice salary. But I couldn’t figure out where he fit into the organizational structure, and he never showed up for our meetings. As it turned out, Bruce was the owners’ rogue son. A bit flower-child-like, Bruce preferred to spend his days on his personal projects, interests and passions. He stopped in every few weeks with donuts to chat with employees and managers, but that was it. The owners told me they allowed this because they couldn’t imagine allowing this able-bodied, able-minded son to starve. Bruce claimed to be an employee, but he didn’t show it by his work. We know the actions of those owners were preposterous. We know Bruce wasn’t a part of the company. He just wanted the salary. He claimed employment because he was on the payroll, but he did nothing to demonstrate that that claim was valid. Salary? Heck yeah! Work? I brought the donuts. See you in a few weeks! James says that if we claim to be part of Jesus’ organization but do nothing to demonstrate that that faith has become part of us, we are fooling ourselves. This is a very familiar verse, so I want to clarify what it does and doesn’t say. When he says “works,” James’ focus is not on legal, moral righteousness. It’s not about cussing, lying, taking God’s name in vain, stealing, or marital unfaithfulness. Righteous living is a different topic for a different time. James’s focus is on one question: Does or doesn’t my faith determine how I spend my time? The example he provides in the next verses show that that is his focus: 15 Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to him, "Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed," but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead. 18 But someone will say, "You have faith; I have deeds." Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do. He says if I mind my own business and keep to myself, I have a dead faith. If I am not serving other people, my faith is dead. THIS IS A HARD HITTING STATEMENT! If my 24 hours are only divided between work, relaxation, pleasure, and sleep then my claim to have faith is false! John also warned us that our faith-claims must be evaluated against our actions toward others: “… Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers. If anyone has material possessions and sees his brother in need but has no pity on him, how can the love of God be in him? Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth” ( 1 John 3:16-18) Jesus constantly combated superficial belief during His ministry. For example: “And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.” (Matthew 7:26-27)
But how does this fit with Paul’s teaching in Romans 3:28 that “ man is justified (saved) by faith apart from the law (works)?” Note the sequence in Ephesians 2:8-10: “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God - not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.”
1. God prepared good works for you to do 2. God showed you grace 3. You had faith 4. You were saved 5. You were created in Christ’s image 6. You did good works When Moses' spies came to Jericho, Rahab hid them and helped them escape. In this way, her deeds demonstrated faith in God's purpose for Israel. As a result, she and her family were saved when the city was destroyed ( Joshua 2:1-24, Joshua 6:17-27, and Hebrews 11:31). Paul's words in Colossians 3:23 and 2 Corinthians 5:10 provide the motivation for demonstrating our faith by our deeds. 1 Corinthians 3:13-15: “… the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.” 2 Corinthians 5:10: “We must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.”
What these passages collectively say, combined with James’ message in this section, is that the inheritance we’ll receive from the Lord will be scaled according to the thing we did while in our human forms. This lines up with Jesus’ story about sheep and goas Matthew 25:31-46. The only difference between the two was what they did and didn’t do. Matthew 7:21: "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.” Q: What are some improper motives that get you involved in doing good works? Q: What are some excuses you have given the Lord for not being more involved in His service?
Faith itself is invisible, yet our testimonies are supposed to influence the unbelieving world. Unbelievers can see nothing but our actions. We can talk about God all we want, but unbelievers aren’t interested in a message. They are interested in being rescued from the futility of this life. They want us to show not tell. They want to see our actions, not hear our message. Frankly, they really don’t even care about our moral living. They will either disagree with our morals or point to non-Christians who live up to similar standards. They need to see the impact Christ has on our lives by our activities, not through our doctrines; by our deeds, not our words. Through our ministry, not our preaching. The great “Hall of Faith” chapter (Hebrews 11) describes God’s people who not only believed, but applied their faith. Finally, we must keep in mind that while faith without works is dead, works without faith is equally dead ( Matthew 7:21-23; John 15:1-6).
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Post by JB on Aug 20, 2018 4:29:43 GMT -6
In the church there is a feeling one can have as an "intellectual ego acheiver" when the whole-hearted agreement with the fundamental concepts of the message feels so strong that the person thinks... "I have faith." This is not faith. Eric, this is such an important point. Those of us who have a decent intellect can get pretty excited when we have a new insight into something. And, as you described here, we can confuse that intellectual stimulation with faith or religious zeal.
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Post by John R on Aug 20, 2018 14:30:47 GMT -6
JB writes, "When he says “works,” James’ focus is not on legal, moral righteousness. It’s not about cussing, lying, taking God’s name in vain, stealing, or marital unfaithfulness. Righteous living is a different topic for a different time."
I like to replace the word "works" with the word "evidence" here. We often get caught up in a specious argument over this verse. Using evidence in place of works brings clarity at least to me. Faith without evidence, like Eric's comment and your example of the company employee who does not contribute, clearly explains that Christianity without a demonstration of practice is just a title.
I apologize for not commenting in the last two weeks. I have no excuse but laziness. My humble apologies brothers! John
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Post by John R on Aug 20, 2018 14:38:23 GMT -6
Q: What are some improper motives that get you involved in doing good works?
The many motivation here is that somehow if I do enough for God, I can earn salvation or acceptance. Like most scripture, we must turn it away from ourselves and look outwardly. Our motivation, therefore, for acts of faith ("good works") come from our inner change brought about through our daily recognition of what Christ did for us on the cross and through the resurrection. This joy for undeserved peace with God should be reflected in a love for Christ and others that explodes in pouring out of "good works," toward others.
As the old hymn goes, "They will know we are Christians by our love."
Blessings! John
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Post by John R on Aug 20, 2018 14:45:43 GMT -6
Q: What are some excuses you have given the Lord for not being more involved in His service?
JB, This one is easy and painful: Too busy raising kids, working, etc. Can't find a place to serve, the church is to _________. My contributions have no value. I have no gifts that God can use.
The real excuse here for me is one of Pride. When I compare what I have done or am thinking about doing to others, well it just doesn't measure up in my eyes and of course I believe in God's eyes too. Lately I have been trying to overcome this by listening to God daily and if something pops in my mind, I receive it as from God and do it, no matter how trivial I believe the act.
I have seen some small but powerful miracles in these "small" acts of obedience. I will continue daily and see where the Lord leads.
Blessings! John
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Post by Eric B on Aug 20, 2018 23:27:37 GMT -6
Eric, Jb and John... You all are right on in this passage! I could not have said it better.
This passage was too painful for me to write on. Back when I was really poor, I went to a church. I came in wearing worn out jeans and a shirt with holes in it. It was a chilly day and I had not eaten since the day before. After the service a brother said to me, you need to get a jacket and eat a good meal. That was like a slap in the face (so to speak).
So yes, as John put it so well, "Faith without evidence, like Eric's comment and your example of the company employee who does not contribute, clearly explains that Christianity without a demonstration of practice is just a title."
John, in response to the question: What are some improper motives that get you involved in doing good works? You wrote, "The many motivation here is that somehow if I do enough for God, I can earn salvation or acceptance. Like most scripture, we must turn it away from ourselves and look outwardly."
That used to be the norm of my Christian life and still sneaks in from time-to-time. It is so easy to flatter ourselves when we spend time in the Word, Pray, serve in the Soup Kitchen, preach the Gospel, serve tirelessly in the church, etc. To think that God is pleased with my work while forgetting at the same time His Word in Isaiah 64:6 "...And all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment;..."
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Post by Eric B on Aug 20, 2018 23:43:46 GMT -6
In the church there is a feeling one can have as an "intellectual ego acheiver" when the whole-hearted agreement with the fundamental concepts of the message feels so strong that the person thinks... "I have faith." This is not faith. Faith is demonstrated when we show love to others... ... when we're show true compassion in our heart. This compassion comes from understanding that God the Father gives us everything - even our breath. Faith is the ultimate expression of gratitude. Simply put. Understanding is not Faith. Eric,
I think you must have visited my church sometime in the past. Whenever there is a really great message, many will speak about the faith they have and go on about it. The sad part is that service in whatever form it is, rarely is attached to that "faith".
I especially like your definition of faith, "Faith is the ultimate expression of gratitude". Thank you for that thought! It gave a clearer picture to me of what faith is.
God bless, Eric B
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Post by Eric B on Aug 20, 2018 23:53:40 GMT -6
Paul's words in Colossians 3:23 and 2 Corinthians 5:10 provide the motivation for demonstrating our faith by our deeds. 1 Corinthians 3:13-15: “… the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.” 2 Corinthians 5:10: “We must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.”
What these passages collectively say, combined with James’ message in this section, is that the inheritance we’ll receive from the Lord will be scaled according to the thing we did while in our human forms. This lines up with Jesus’ story about sheep and goas Matthew 25:31-46. The only difference between the two was what they did and didn’t do. Matthew 7:21: "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.”Jb,
These passages are convicting, especially Matthew 7:21. One the one hand, I pray daily and on the other, I often find I am not doing His will. Sometimes the Lord reminds me in that still small voice, "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven..." By the grace of God, I am resolved to do His will.
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Post by manoj on Aug 21, 2018 13:46:55 GMT -6
In the church there is a feeling one can have as an "intellectual ego acheiver" when the whole-hearted agreement with the fundamental concepts of the message feels so strong that the person thinks... "I have faith." This is not faith. Eric, this is such an important point. Those of us who have a decent intellect can get pretty excited when we have a new insight into something. And, as you described here, we can confuse that intellectual stimulation with faith or religious zeal.
Well said, Eric! Thanks for that elaboration, JB!
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